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Re: Finding content in your job title


From: Steve Bertrand <steve () ibctech ca>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:15:14 -0400

On 2010.03.30 23:50, Anton Kapela wrote:

On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:34 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:

"The title, Engineer, and its derivatives should be reserved for those
individuals whose education and experience qualify them to practice in
a manner that protects public safety. Strict use of the title serves

...fortunately for us (and CCIE's around the globe) running the Internet doesn't involve much public trust. Does it?

In a few states in the US, working for the same engineering firm for some number of years (usually 6 or more) counts 
similarly as passing a state-administered professional engineering exam. It would be with some significant precedent, 
then, that a job or other professional experience does indeed equate to state-sponsored public trust.

So, back to Steve's first question:

How does the ops community feel about using this designation? 


If you've been doing it for a while, and not been chased out, I would argue there is ample precedent to support 
don'ing the title. I guess the sticky-bits here include, potentially, a derth of colleges and graduate study calling 
itself "network engineering."

Failing that, perhaps nanog-l could take a vote:

Does Steve deserve the title of Network Train Driver, list?

Not acceptable. I do not want this.

I read and review messages and documents from people who have *much*
more experience than I do every single day, and whom I respect to the
n'th degree.

This isn't a vote count. I am _not_ an engineer, and do not need or
desire the title.

Thanks anyway though ;)

Steve


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