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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style


From: Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:13:21 -0800

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:40 PM, George Bonser <gbonser () seven com> wrote:
From: JC Dill
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:20 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style


  On 15/12/10 10:05 PM, George Bonser wrote:

If the customer pays the cost of the transport, a provider with
better
transport efficiency / quality ratio wins.


This (and everything that followed) assumes the customer has a choice
of
providers.  For most customers who already have Comcast, they don't
have
any choice for similar broadband services (speeds).  So open market
principles don't come into play, and Comcast knows it.

No, you misunderstood.  It doesn't matter if you have only one internet
service provider.  If the end customer foots the bill, the incentive for
innovation is for the *content* provider to strike a balance between
quality and cost that the customers want.  If the *content* provider
foots the bill, innovation is driven in a way that the content providers
want.

Lets say I have foo.com and bar.com that offer video services and I am
on Comcast.  If Comcast meters my bandwidth usage and foo.com has good
quality with a lower bandwidth use, I use foo.  In the other model, if
the content providers subsidize the bill, bar.com might be completely
bloated but they have deep pockets and can pay the subsidy, they drive
foo.com out of business and Comcast still has a congested network.


http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/15/yahoo-video-no-longer-accepts-video-uploads/

You may find that simply fewer content providers decide it's worth it to play
in that space, under those conditions, which results in fewer choices for the
consumer, and something closer to a monopoly on the available content
to be consumed.

People *were* happy with only having three national TV networks to choose
from for their major content in the US, right?

bar.com doesn't have to drive foo.com out of business; they just have to
outlast them in the war of attrition driven by the monopoly holder, until
bar.com decides it's no longer worth providing that content anymore.

end game--one monopoly access provider, and one giant content source--and
a huge barrier to entry keeping anyone else from providing an alternative view
of the world.

Matt
(speaking only for myself, and definitely not for any companies named foo, bar,
or any other combination of letters.  Or punctuation marks of any sort.)


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