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RE: Over a decade of DDOS--any progress yet?


From: Drew Weaver <drew.weaver () thenap com>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 11:53:20 -0500

You can get a dedicated server for $80 with a 1Gbps connection to the Internet without looking that hard.

It is pretty easy/cheap to kill a 1Gbps connection now a days.

Soon several providers will begin offering dedicated servers with a 10Gbps connection to a single machine.

-Drew


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:42 AM
To: Jack Bates
Cc: North American Operators' Group
Subject: Re: Over a decade of DDOS--any progress yet?

< 1 Gbps attacks used to be standard issue but as of the past 90 days
we have been seeing 2 - 8 Gbps a lot more frequently.

Jeff


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net> wrote:
On 12/8/2010 10:28 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote:

Application-layer attacks aside, most packet-flooding attacks these
days don't completely fill links, as there's no need for the attacker
to do so.


I think the difference here is scale. packet-flooding attacks often do
fill links; if the links drop to 155mb/s or below. I've seen some gig+ DOS,
but that is less common. The DOS I posted a flow capture link for wasn't
that large, but enough to flood out the little DS3 going to the small town
where the target DSL customers was.


Jack







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