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Re: Should routers send redirects by default?
From: Stephen Stuart <stuart () tech org>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 06:03:31 +0000
Forgetting all of the theoretical constructs for a moment, has anyone here personally encountered an operational scenario in which ICMP redirects solved a problem for you that you would otherwise have found difficult or intransigent? Without naming names, would you describe the scenario's details, explain the problem that would have existed absent redirects and explain how redirects solved it for you?I've never had redirects solve a problem for me.
Once upon a time, gatekeeper.dec.com was a MIPS Ultrix box connected to a LAN segment (the IP prefix for that LAN segment was 16.1.0.0/24, and gatekeeper used to be 16.1.0.2). Also connected to the LAN segment were routers belonging to AlterNet (or maybe it was UUnet by then) and BARRnet. gatekeeper's static default route was pointed at the BARRnet router. The BARRnet and AlterNet routers exchanged routes out of sight of the LAN segment in question. When BARRnet knew that the destination of a packet would be the AlterNet router, it would issue an ICMP redirect to gatekeeper (or any of the other hosts that pointed default at the BARRnet router). The redirects let us make pretty efficient use of the interfaces toward both from the collection of gatekeeper and uucp-gw{1,2} and the NNTP relays and such. Had we shovelled all the traffic at BARRnet, all the time, we wouldn't have stretched our DELNIs as far as we did. That was 1994 - and in fairly short order (within two years) we went from DELNIs to DECswitch 900s, MIPS Ultrix to Digital UNIX (or whatever it was called) on AlphaStations (so many AlphaStations), and ICMP redirects to the private IX that became PAIX. Stephen
Current thread:
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default?, (continued)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Mark Smith (Aug 20)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Ricky Beam (Aug 20)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Mark Smith (Aug 20)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Mark Smith (Aug 20)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Eric J. Katanich (Aug 20)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Eric J. Katanich (Aug 20)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? David W. Hankins (Aug 24)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? David W. Hankins (Aug 24)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Eric J. Katanich (Aug 20)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? William Herrin (Aug 24)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Christopher Morrow (Aug 24)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Stephen Stuart (Aug 24)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 24)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Randy Bush (Aug 25)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Christopher Morrow (Aug 24)
- Re: Should routers send redirects by default? Mark Smith (Aug 25)