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Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:22:01 -0700


On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:49 PM, David Conrad wrote:

On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:52 AM, William Pitcock wrote:
And when there are no eyeballs to look at your IPv4 content because your
average comcast user is on IPv6?

The chances of this actually occurring in our lifetime are so small as to be meaningless.  There are (according to 
published reports) between 1 and 2 billion people reachable on IPv4.  No rational commercial Internet organization is 
going to block themselves off from that customer base.  Folks like Comcast will probably add IPv6 support _in 
addition to_ IPv4.  Eventually, they may even add a surcharge to encourage people to migrate off IPv4, but I'd 
imagine that's way down the line.  By way of analogy, how long did pulse dialing continue to be supported in the 
phone system after DTMF was introduced?

Regards,
-drc

Actually, I suspect that once orgs. like Comcast have IPv6 fully deployed you will very likely see increasing fees for 
"Legacy IPv4 Support" from those providers.  Once that happens, there will be eye-ball consumer pressure for content 
providers to be available on IPv6 or lose business.

Pulse dialing is still supported in most PSTN switches.  How often do you think it is still used?

Frankly, the biggest reason Pulse dialing wasn't deprecated faster was the number of Telcos that charged extra for DTMF 
support for so long. Once the DTMF surcharges were removed, most users converted almost over night.

Owen



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