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Re: Issues with Gmail
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:54:09 -0700
On 09/02/2009 10:33 AM, Robert Mathews (OSIA) wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Randy Bush<randy () psg com> wrote:[....] the internet is a wonderful demonstration of building a reliable network out of reliable components. but what we have with google mail (and apps) is two scary problems o way too many users relying on a single point of failure. so it makes the nyt when it breaks because of the number of users affected, andI choose to not assume to "what/which single point of failure" this reference by Randy applies. However, we can take confidence in the fact that Google's Gmail service architecture is distributed; not to be interpreted of course, as suggesting that within the distribution, there isn't a single point of failure. Perhaps, from a network operations point of view, the point needs elaboration.
I think that Randy might be conflating single point of failure with "resilience". Google, distributed on every level as it is, is still just one operator and in this case the lemmings faithfully followed each other into the sea. We've been on an anti-resilience binge for quite some time, accelerated to warp speed by the advent of the Internet itself. There's something to be said about not having all of your police scanners, etc, etc on the internet from a resilience standpoint, but the siren call is strong for good reasons too. Mike
Current thread:
- Re: Issues with Gmail, (continued)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Glenn Johnson (Sep 01)
- Re: Re: Issues with Gmail tome . nerd (Sep 01)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Glenn Johnson (Sep 01)
- Re: Issues with Gmail shasan (Sep 01)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Kevin Stange (Sep 01)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Nick Hilliard (Sep 01)
- Re: Issues with Gmail AMuse (Sep 01)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Randy Bush (Sep 02)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Martin Hannigan (Sep 02)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Jay Farrell (Sep 02)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Robert Mathews (OSIA) (Sep 02)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Michael Thomas (Sep 02)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Robert Mathews (OSIA) (Sep 02)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Michael Thomas (Sep 02)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Martin Hannigan (Sep 02)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Jeff Kell (Sep 01)
- Re: Issues with Gmail up (Sep 01)
- Re: Issues with Gmail Jon Kibler (Sep 01)