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Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation
From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:34:10 -0500 (CDT)
there is a fundamental disconnect here. the IP space is neutral. it has no bias toward or against social behaviours. its a tool. the actual/real target here are the people who are using these tools to be antisocial. blacklisting IP space is always reactive and should only beused in emergency and as a -TEMPORARY- expedient. IMHO of course., YMMV.
Show me ONE major MTA which allows you to configure an expiration for an ACL entry. The problem with your opinion, and it's a fine opinion, and it's even a good opinion, is that it has very little relationship to the tools which are given to people in order to accomplish blocking. Kind of the question I was contemplating in my other message of minutes ago. If people were given an option to "block this IP for 30 minutes, 24 hours, 30 days, 12 months, 5 years, or forever" - I wonder how many people would just shrug and click "forever." This may lead to the discovery of another fundamental disconnect - or two. Sigh. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
Current thread:
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation, (continued)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Benjamin Billon (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Jay Hennigan (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Brian Keefer (Sep 08)
- RE: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Frank Bulk (Sep 09)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Jon Lewis (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Joe Greco (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Jon Lewis (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Joe Greco (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation bmanning (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Joe Greco (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation bmanning (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Ronald Cotoni (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Joe Greco (Sep 09)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Chris Hills (Sep 09)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation James Cloos (Sep 12)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Joe Greco (Sep 12)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation James Cloos (Sep 12)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Joe Greco (Sep 12)
- RE: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Keith Medcalf (Sep 12)
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