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Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN


From: Steven Bellovin <smb () cs columbia edu>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:28:42 -0400


On Oct 17, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Ray Soucy wrote:

Looking for general feedback on IPv6 deployment to the edge.

As it turns out delivering IPv6 to the edge in an academic setting has
been a challenge.  Common wisdom says to rely on SLAAC for IPv6
addressing, and in a perfect world it would make sense.

Given that historically we have relied on DHCP for a means of NAC and
host registration, like many academic institutions, the idea of
sweeping changes to accommodate IPv6 was just not going to happen in
the near future.

...

My question is this: what are your goals? What are you trying to achieve? Force all authorized machines to register? If so, why? We'll leave out for now whether or not there's even much point to that. My university -- and I'm just a user of campus computing facilities; I don't run them -- has concluded that there's no particular benefit to requiring registration or permission; it's one more server complex to run, one more database to maintain, and one more thing to break, and the benefits don't seem to be worth the cost. And given that we've had incidents of IP and MAC address spoofing, where it took the switch logs to figure out what was going on, I'm very far from convinced that registration is of any benefit anyway. In other words -- yes, I agree with the campus policy -- but that's not the question I'm asking.

I ask because there may be other ways to achieve your actual goal, but without knowing that it's hard to make recommendations. The most obvious answer is accountability, but physical port number may be a better approach there, depending on how the campus network is run.


                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb







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