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Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?
From: Bret Clark <bclark () spectraaccess com>
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:27:38 -0400
Yeah I have to agree...that article was poorly written and clearly the author has little understanding of physics. "Velocity" has absolutely nothing to do with Wiedemann-Franz law, we are talking resistance and that determines current through the wire; not how fast the electrons are flowing through the wire. Plus unless you are selling services on Mercury or Pluto, the temperature extremes between summer and winter are not enough to affect the resistance level of a copper in such a manner that it would affect the current on the circuit. We all have traffic utilization graphs, and, at least in my case, its pretty obviously that trends are affected by seasons only in terms of vacation, holidays, and eve if it's a Monday or a Friday. If we need to do major backbone upgrades, we try to schedule around a holiday weekend, because that's when we find Internet traffic to be the least (well from a business utilization point of view). Bret On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 10:16 -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote::-> "Hank" == Hank Nussbacher <hank () efes iucc ac il> writes:http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/17-10/ts_burningquestion -HankThere are TXCOs and OXCOs inside equipment for a reason. And rubidium lamps as well, sometimes. Seasonal variations in usage from the end customers are a fact of life, instead. If your net is large enough you can even spot the different habits about vacations, holidays and whatnot across the different regions.I read the article and the follow up posts and I wonder if we are all using the same definition for "speed" here. The article seems to imply you don't get 6 Mbps on your DSL line in summer because the copper is hotter and it's harder to push electrons down the link. That is clearly BS, the clock is ticking six million times per second, period. Then it talks about traffic, which is very different than speed, at least in my book. If the intertubes are congested, you might get less throughput, but your "speed" is the same. And congestion cannot affect speed. That laser is blinking at 10 billion times per second whether the queue behind the port is full or not. (And don't tell me the laser is quiescent when the queue is empty, you know what I mean.) So what are are talking here? Speed, throughput, congestion, packet loss, latency ... ? Oh, and while I am certain it is true different networks see different peaks & valleys for different seasons & times of day, the "Internet" (whatever the hell that is) definitely has less traffic in summer than fall.
Current thread:
- Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Hank Nussbacher (Oct 06)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Justin Shore (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Marco Hogewoning (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Pierfrancesco Caci (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Bret Clark (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Tim Franklin (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Scott Howard (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? joel jaeggli (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Steve Meuse (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 07)
- RE: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Jonathan Brashear (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Bryan Campbell (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Adrian Chadd (Oct 07)
- Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season? Matthew Black (Oct 07)