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Re: Upstream BGP community support
From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:49:03 -0500
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 06:35:31PM -0500, Dorian Kim wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 06:27:38PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:1) Old stodgy tier 1's who have communities but don't want to share them with the world, because of silly NDA concerns or the like. This covers aI'm curious, since when did respecting bounds of contracts and agreements one has signed become "stodgy"?
There is no excuse for not being able to tell people where you learned a route from (continent, region, city, country, etc). I'm personally of the opinion that this is a good thing to share with the entire Internet, as it lets people make intelligent TE decisions for your routes even if they don't have a direct relationship with your network. You should also be able to at a minimum allow no-export or prepend to specific ASNs, and not being able to provide these to customers is absolutely grounds for "should never ever buy from" status. The "we aren't allowed to say we're a peer" argument seems easily defeatable, realistically if you're a stodgy tier 1 all you need is "this is a customer" tag and you can figure out the rest with "not a customer" logic without explicitly violating any NDAs. The "alter export attributes within a specific region" argument is a somewhat legitimate one due to requirements for consistent announcements, but I prefer to enable it by default and deal with unhappy peers on a case by case basis. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
Current thread:
- Re: Upstream BGP community support, (continued)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Andy B. (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Christopher Morrow (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Randy Bush (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support jim deleskie (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Randy Bush (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support jim deleskie (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Andy B. (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Paul Wall (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Dorian Kim (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Dorian Kim (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 31)
- Re: Upstream BGP community support Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 31)
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- Re: Upstream BGP community support Andy B. (Oct 31)