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Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS


From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins () arbor net>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:33:39 +0000


On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Stefan Fouant wrote:

 if the discussion hasn't shifted from that of DDoS to EDoS, it  
should.

All DDoS is 'EDoS' - it's a distinction without a difference, IMHO.

DDoS costs opex, can cost direct revenue, can induce capex spends -  
it's all about economics at bottom, always has been, or nobody would  
care in the first place.  And look at click-fraud attacks in which the  
miscreants either a) are committing fraud by causing botnets to make  
fake clicks so that they can be paid for same or b) wish to exhaust a  
rival's advertising budget when he's paying per-impression.  Plain old  
packet-flooding DDoSes can cost victims/unwitting sources big money in  
transit costs, can cost SPs in transit and/or violating peering  
agreements, etc.

There's no need or justification for a separate term; Chris Hoff  
bounced 'EDoS' around earlier this year, and the same arguments apply.

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