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RE: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS


From: "Stefan Fouant" <sfouant () shortestpathfirst com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:35:17 -0500

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster () gmail com]
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:26 PM

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Stefan Fouant
<sfouant () shortestpathfirst com> wrote:


Actually, no - the miscreants are always going to have more
bandwidth
at their disposal, plus they utilize attack vectors which provide a
great deal of amplification (including at layer-7) which make
bandwidth largely irrelevant.

So if I'm hearing you correctly, you're saying that no matter how
much
infrastructure you have to potentially absorb the problem, there is
nothing you can do because the bad guys are always going to have more
bandwidth at their disposal.  Man, that's a pretty bad position to be
in
for a vendor who's fundamental premise is to sell boxes to deal with
these sorts of
problems. ;)

Well, the fact of the matter is that you can't put 10 lb. of
[expletive]
in a 5 lb. bag, so to speak. :-)

Which is why vendors selling DDoS mitigation equipment will always tell you
to get a 15lb. bag first. ;)  Their solutions work, but only if you got a
bag big enough to store a lot of crap.

Stefan Fouant
GPG Key ID: 0xB5E3803D



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