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RE: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS
From: "Stefan Fouant" <sfouant () shortestpathfirst com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:35:17 -0500
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:26 PM On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Stefan Fouant <sfouant () shortestpathfirst com> wrote:Actually, no - the miscreants are always going to have morebandwidthat their disposal, plus they utilize attack vectors which provide a great deal of amplification (including at layer-7) which make bandwidth largely irrelevant.So if I'm hearing you correctly, you're saying that no matter howmuchinfrastructure you have to potentially absorb the problem, there is nothing you can do because the bad guys are always going to have more bandwidth at their disposal. Man, that's a pretty bad position to beinfor a vendor who's fundamental premise is to sell boxes to deal with these sorts of problems. ;)Well, the fact of the matter is that you can't put 10 lb. of [expletive] in a 5 lb. bag, so to speak. :-)
Which is why vendors selling DDoS mitigation equipment will always tell you to get a 15lb. bag first. ;) Their solutions work, but only if you got a bag big enough to store a lot of crap. Stefan Fouant GPG Key ID: 0xB5E3803D
Current thread:
- Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Stefan Fouant (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Jeffrey Lyon (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Seth Mattinen (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Paul Ferguson (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Joe Greco (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Seth Mattinen (Nov 05)
- RE: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Stefan Fouant (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Roland Dobbins (Nov 05)
- RE: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Stefan Fouant (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Paul Ferguson (Nov 05)
- RE: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Stefan Fouant (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Florian Weimer (Nov 06)
- RE: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Stefan Fouant (Nov 07)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Dobbins, Roland (Nov 07)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Sean Donelan (Nov 08)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Seth Mattinen (Nov 08)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Jeffrey Lyon (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Roland Dobbins (Nov 05)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Florian Weimer (Nov 06)
- Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Eliot Lear (Nov 06)
- RE: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS Stefan Fouant (Nov 07)