nanog mailing list archives

Re: Usage-Based Billing for DIA


From: Jack Carrozzo <jack () crepinc com>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:19:02 -0500

I use netacct - can grab data per cidr block and dumps data into
mysql. I wrote scripts from there to graph in rrdtool, bill on total
usage, or bill on 95th percentile.

http://netacct-mysql.gabrovo.com/

-Jack Carrozzo

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Rodriguez, Mauricio wrote:

Looking at possibilities for an implementation of usage-based billing, it
seems that the same techniques and tools always come up.  I'm looking for
some feedback from the list on experiences with these tools and techniques
as well as alternatives that may not be listed here.

+Techniques
              --Flow data (Netflow, SFlow, etc) analysis to determine 95th
percentile traffic levels
              --SNMP polling of interface counters to determine 95th
percentile traffic levels


I need to look into this in the near future as well.  The problems I'm aware
of are:

1) we have customers on policed ports, and the interface snmp counters count
packets before service-policy.  It doesn't seem right to bill for packets we
dropped :)...so this isn't useful data for billing purposes.

2) our customer agg gear (cisco 3550s) don't do netflow.  Our bigger
switches the agg gear uplinks to does (6509 sup720-3bxls), but can't handle
export of full netflow, so we run sampled.  It's still useful for abuse
tracking, but billing based on it would require some large assumptions and
multipliers...unlikely to be of use.

The remaining option I'm aware of is to use monitor sessions to send a copy
of our traffic to a system/device which would then either generate "full"
netflow data or just distill the traffic into data xfered per IP/network.
 What are people using for this on the several hundred mbit/s to a few
gigabits/s or more range?

Are there other ways?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Jon Lewis                   |  I route
 Senior Network Engineer     |  therefore you are
 Atlantic Net                |
_________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________




Current thread: