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Re: Dynamic IP log retention = 0?


From: "Ross" <ross () dillio net>
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:39:43 -0500 (CDT)

Vladis,

I'm not going to argue with you on a socio economic opinion that companies
who have stock holders are evil because they don't spend their funds where
they want you to and promote anti-social behavior by doing so. If you
think society's biggest problem is to stop port scanning then I hope you
succeed in your crusade. I think many of us have bigger problems than you
getting port scanned but if you every truly get attacked, I'll be there to
help.

As a good friend of mine says "no one ever goes to work and says, how am I
going to suck today." We can all improve in our operations, public shaming
for not dropping ones other duties to hand over information that you
aren't privileged to is a bit sad.

</rant>
*nite*

-- 
Ross
ross [at] dillio.net

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:56:24 CDT, Ross said:
I know I won't be able to change your mind. Saying a company's business
decisions are antisocial just because they aren't doing you want is very
unhelpful. I don't know how many large ISPs you have worked for but I'm
not sure if you understand corporate budgets or politics.

Ross - it doesn't help when you turn around and present another false
dichotomy.

It's quite possible that Joe *does* understand corporate budgets and
politics,
and *still* thinks that business decisions are antisocial.  In fact, one
can
fairly easily argue that *many* of our current socio-economic issues are
due
to the fact that corporate decisions are in general required to be in the
stockholder's interests, not society's.  In other words, they are in
general
*by definition* anti-social.

So the correct phrasing is "How do we change the anti-social behavior into
something less anti-social which still pleases the stockholders?"

Seriously, what will be your next analogy, pedophiles are the same as
file
sharers?

Paging Jack Valenti...





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