Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?

[David Barak <thegameiam () yahoo com>]

Encryption is insufficient - if you let someone have physical access for a long enough period, they'll eventually crack 
anything.  Encryption makes the period of time longer, but let them try?

As regards "roving," we are talking about Tyson's Corner here: that's pretty close (< 5km) to major offices of lots of 
folks who would care deeply about such matters.

David Barak
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--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Charles Wyble <charles () thewybles com> wrote:

> From: Charles Wyble <charles () thewybles com>
> Subject: Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?
> To: "nanog () nanog org" <nanog () nanog org>
> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 1:57 PM
> Cheaper?
>
> To quote sneakers.... were the united states govt. we don't
> do that sort 
> of thing.
>
> Martin Hannigan wrote:
> > It would also be cheaper to add an additional layer of
> security with
> > encryption vs. roving teams of gun toting manhole
> watchers.
> > YMMV,
> >
> > Best!
> >
> > Marty
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/2/09, Deepak Jain <deepak () ai net>
> wrote:
> > > > No. And here's why: If you're a naughty
> foreign intelligence team, and
> > > > you know your stuff, you already know where
> some of the cables you'd
> > > > really like a tap on are buried. When you hear
> of a construction
> > > > project
> > > > that might damage one, you set up your
> innocuous white panel truck
> > > > somewhere else, near a suitable manhole. When
> the construction guy with
> > > > a backhoe chops the cable (and you may well
> slip him some money to do
> > > > so), *then* you put your tap in, elsewhere,
> with your actions covered
> > > > by
> > > > the downtime at the construction site. That's
> why the guys in the SUVs
> > > > are in such a hurry, because they want to
> close the window of time in
> > > > which someone can be tapping the cable
> elsewhere.
> > > > At least that's what I heard. I read it
> somewhere on the internet.
> > > > Definitely. Not at all a sneaky person. No
> sir.
> > > And if you were a naughty foreign intelligence
> team installing a tap, or a
> > > bend, or whatever in the fiber contemporaneously
> with a known cut, you could
> > > also reamplify and dispersion compensate for the
> slight amount of affect
> > > your work is having so that when its tested later,
> the OTDR is blind to your
> > > work.
> > >
> > > Ah, the fun of Paranoia, Inc.
> > >
> > > Deepak Jain
> > > AiNET