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Re: IPv6 Confusion


From: David Conrad <drc () virtualized org>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:18:33 -1000

On Feb 17, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
In otherwords ISP's need to enter the 21st century.

Yeah, those stupid, lazy, ISPs. I'm sure they're just sitting around every day, kicking back, eating Bon Bons(tm), and thinking of all the new and interesting ways they can burn the vast tracts of ill-gotten profits they're obviously rolling in.

Reality check: change in large scale production networks is hard and expensive. There needs to be a business case to justify making substantive changes. You are arguing that ISPs should make changes without any obvious mechanism to guarantee some return on the investment necessary to pay for those changes. This is a waste of time.

In general, NAT is paid for by the end user, not the network provider. Migrating to IPv6 on the other hand is paid for entirely by the network provider. Guess which is easier to make a business case for?

Note that I'm not saying I like the current state of affairs, rather I'm suggesting that jumping up and down demanding ISPs change because you think they're stuck in the last century is unlikely to get you very far. You want a concrete suggestion? Make configuring DDNS on BIND _vastly_ simpler, scalable to tens or hundreds of thousands of clients, and manageable by your average NOC staff.

Regards,
-drc



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