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Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)]
From: Joe Abley <jabley () hopcount ca>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:18:15 -0800
On 5-Feb-2009, at 13:44, Ricky Beam wrote:
This is the exact same bull**** as the /8 allocations in the early days of IPv4.
There are only 256 /8s in IPv4.There are 72,057,594,037,927,936 /56s in IPv6. If you object to where you think this is going, then perhaps it's more palatable to consider the 4,294,967,296 /32s in IPv6.
[Feel free to adjust the ratios by orders of magnitude to accommodate the details that I am blandly ignoring above. It's doesn't change the message.]
So in fact it's not *exactly* the same.Note that I am not denying the faint aroma of defecation in the air, nor the ghost of address assignment policies past. Also, your excitement is strangely invigorating.
[...]Exhibit A: With IPv6 Address Autoconfiguration (tm) (patent pending), you don't need DHCP. *face plant* The IPv4 mistake you've NOT learned from here is "rarp". DCHP does far more than tell a host was address it should use. (yes, I've called for the IPng WG member's execution, reanimation, and re-execution, several times.)
You might like to review the DHCPv6 specification and try some of its implementations.
There are surely simpler approaches for host configuration than the current mess, and it's surely true that the design process reached some odd conclusions on occasion, but the fact remains that the tools and protocols needed to get the job done in this regard do actually exist. It's certainly an option today to build and deploy rather than to bicker and complain.
Joe
Current thread:
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)], (continued)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Randy Bush (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Matthew Kaufman (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Daniel Senie (Feb 06)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Andy Davidson (Feb 09)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Mohacsi Janos (Feb 09)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Mark Andrews (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] John Osmon (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Matthew Kaufman (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Mark Andrews (Feb 06)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] John Osmon (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Joe Abley (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Joe Maimon (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Nathan Ward (Feb 06)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 07)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Ricky Beam (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] David W. Hankins (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Joe Abley (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] David W. Hankins (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems Paul Vixie (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems Joe Loiacono (Feb 06)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems Jack Bates (Feb 06)