Re: RBN and it's spin-offs

[Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>]

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On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:36 PM, William Pitcock
> <nenolod () systeminplace net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 23:25 -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:13 PM, William Pitcock
> > > <nenolod () systeminplace net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It "worked" against Indymedia UK: http://www.indymedia.org/fbi/
> > >
> > > indymedia is in texas, no mlat required.
> >
> > It was an MLAT initiated by the Dutch government because someone posted
> > pictures of a Dutch policeman breaking the law that they wanted removed.
> >
> > Yes, the M in MLAT stands for *Mutual*.  As in, it goes both ways.
>
> The IndyMedia incident illustrates the problem, in my opinion -- going
> after child's play instead of hardcore criminals.
>
> Que Sera...

I apologize for deviating from the original issue at hand -- which I almost
forgot. :-)

And (I believe) it had something to do with something along  the lines of
(paraphrased) "What are ISPs supposed to do about $WHATEVER activities
within their realm of responsibility?" -- where $WHATEVER could be
spammers, criminal malware purveyors, or something else equally illegal.

I would suggest following the lead of two other ISPs who have found
themselves in similar positions in the past -- Hurricane Electric and GLBX
- -- that, when presented with hard, documented evidence of criminal
activity, disconnected downstream parties for violating their Term of
Service agreements.

You don't always have to have a Fed knocking on your door with a subpoena
to do The Right Thing.

- - ferg

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