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Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion
From: Joe Provo <nanog-post () rsuc gweep net>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:09:54 -0500
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 01:09:26PM -0500, Randy Bush wrote:
I _do_ create action plans and _do_ quarterback each step and _do_ slap down any attempt to deviate.imagine a network engineering culture where the concept of 'attempt to deviate' just does not occur.
Whimsical deviations don't belong in the maint execution, they belong in the brainstorming and design. Gather more points of view during the peer review of the specification of work. In my experience, good engineering makes for bad drama (and conversely if it is a "dramatic save" then you have a bad engineer and likely a cowboy). Have a plan that executes in stages, tests at checkpoints where partial completion is possible, and a fallback for each step. A great way to train up junior people, document as you go, expose flaws and lines of future investigation, and if things go south you escalte to those who can judge *reasonable* new directions. To me, that kind of change management for non-automatable work is a descendent of resonable group work. If you have project-oriented autonomous teams that stick to the guideposts of "your standards" and "minimal disruptions/maximal uptime" then good work will emerge. As for automation, that enables your expensive hmans to do more smart things so should always be incorporated in processes and be something people move toward, IMO. Cheers, Joe -- RSUC / GweepNet / Spunk / FnB / Usenix / SAGE
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- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion, (continued)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Owen DeLong (Dec 28)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Robert Boyle (Dec 28)
- BCPs, Exercising emergency process et al Jared Mauch (Dec 25)
- Re: BCPs, Exercising emergency process et al Sean Donelan (Dec 26)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion bross (Dec 25)
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- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Robert Boyle (Dec 26)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion David Hiers (Dec 28)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Bill Woodcock (Dec 28)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Owen DeLong (Dec 28)
- RE: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Frank Bulk (Dec 25)
- Re: Revisiting the Aviation Safety vs. Networking discussion Joe Provo (Dec 25)