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Re: SPF Configurations
From: John Levine <johnl () iecc com>
Date: 4 Dec 2009 17:25:04 -0000
If the customer insist on using their domain, then you would have to have the customer setup an SPF record within their domain that points to your email server IP blocks.
Right. The only major mail system that pays attention to SPF is Hotmail, but there are enough small poorly run MTAs that use it that an SPF record which lists your outbounds and ~all (not -all) can be marginally useful to avoid bogus rejections of your mail. As everyone here should already know, the fundamental problem with SPF is that although it does an OK job of describing the mail sending patterns of dedicated bulk mail systems, it can't model the way that normal mail systems with human users work. But so deep is the faith of the SPF cult that they blame the world for not matching SPF rather than the other way around, believing that it prevent forgery, having redefined "forgery" as whatever it is that SPF prevents. As the operator of one of the world's more heavily forged domains (abuse.net) I can report that if you think it prevents forgery blowback, you are mistaken. For rants about how badly the world and/or SPF stink, followups to Spam-L. For proposals about other anti-spam magic bullets, followups to ASRG. R's, John
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- SPF Configurations Jeffrey Negro (Dec 04)
- Re: SPF Configurations Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 04)
- Re: SPF Configurations Dave CROCKER (Dec 04)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: SPF Configurations Jeffrey Negro (Dec 04)
- Re: SPF Configurations Bret Clark (Dec 04)
- Re: SPF Configurations James Bensley (Dec 04)
- Re: SPF Configurations John Levine (Dec 04)
- AW: SPF Configurations Andre Engel (Dec 04)
- Re: AW: SPF Configurations John R. Levine (Dec 04)
- AW: AW: SPF Configurations Andre Engel (Dec 05)
- Re: SPF Configurations Bret Clark (Dec 04)
- Re: SPF Configurations Lars Eggert (Dec 04)
- Re: SPF Configurations Sean Donelan (Dec 06)
- Re: SPF Configurations Bill Stewart (Dec 06)
- Re: SPF Configurations Sean Donelan (Dec 07)
- Re: Official Mail, was SPF Configurations John Levine (Dec 07)
- Re: SPF Configurations Michael Holstein (Dec 07)
- Re: SPF Configurations Douglas Otis (Dec 07)