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Re: 10GE router resource


From: ann kok <annkok2001 () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:22:03 -0700 (PDT)


Hi Chris

Could you share your opensouce 10G info for me?

For the past 8 months, I have problem to use the 10G
in linux system. I have to continuous to upgrade the
hardwares...

my existing system is using  the new CPU now, 4G
memory, 1 x 10G card plus several 1G NICs.
Intel 2 Ext CPU X9650  @ 3.00GHz
All CPU is in 100% used when it is in 4G totally
(download + upload). 

thank you so much


--- Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann () gmail com> wrote:

Greg has laid out a great bit of information and I
would like to add just
one possibility to the list of budget 10GE routers:
Vyatta.  According to a
recent press release from that company (
http://www.vyatta.com/about/pressreleases.php?id=51)
they offer a product
that is "2 to 3X higher performance at a cost
savings of more than 75
percent" when compared to Cisco's 7200. 
Unfortunately I have not had the
opportunity to test or use the Vyatta routers yet; I
have however
successfully used other open-source Linux based
routers in the past with
great success.  If  you are looking for a truly
budget 10GE router, they may
be worth adding to the list and looking into.

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Greg VILLAIN
<nanog () grrrrreg net> wrote:



On Mar 24, 2008, at 10:23 AM, user user wrote:

Hi everybody!

I find myself in the market for some 10GE
routers. As
I don't buy these everyday, I was wondering if
any of
you guys had any good resources for evaluating
different vendors and models. I'm mainly
thinking
about non-vendor resources as the vendorspeak
sites
are not that hard to find.

Also I'd love to hear recommendatios for
"budget" 10GE
routers. The "budget" router would be used to
hook up
client networks through one 10GE interface and
connect
to different transit providers through two 10GE
interfaces.

- Zed

Hiya,

When it comes to budget, force10 are good. I
wouldn't be able to
confirm if they're worth performance-wise.
I'd strongly suggest Foundry, I'm a big fan of
their kits, price-wise
and performance-wise, provided you do not need
rocket-science features.
MLX/XMR models will surely do the trick perfectly.

When it comes to router purchasing habits, we all
tend to get
religious...
Bottom line is that most of the 'regular' vendors
(namely Cisco,
Juniper, Foundry, Force10, Extreme, Riverstone)
implement pretty much
the same set of features, which are all IETF/IEEE
normalized, meaning
if you don't need proprietary features (and you'll
wish you don't),
any router will be fine, the only difference will
come from:
- the chassis being non-blocking or not (i.e.
backplane design)
- the price per port
- the operating OS
- the feeling you'll get with the salesperson, and
the reputation of
their Support Teams.
- vendor specific features such as Flow Sampling
To make it simple, most vendors have an IOS like
OS, except Juniper
which has a really clever and elegant OS, but are
very pricey.
Foundry and Force10 have the cheapest price per
port
Cisco does only Netflow, Foundry & Force10 only
SFlow (which is a true
standard) and I think Juniper does JFlow
Cisco's kits are packed with proprietary protocols
(HSRP and GLBP
instead of VRRP, their own ethernet trunking,
EIGRP as their own and
yet extremely efficient IGP, TCL scriptable
CLI...) , some of them are
really good, some are crappy, but I suggest you'd
stick with IEEE/IETF
protocol to avoid future trouble.

One thing: RSTP/802-1w is very (very, very, very)
not often
interoperable between vendors who all have their
own interpretation of
the norm and can quickly turn into a nightmare.
I'd strongly suggest try&buys if (R)STP
interoperability is required,
but I'm a little paranoid :)

Greg VILLAIN
Independant Network & Telco Architecture
Consultant





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