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Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora'sBox
From: Peter Beckman <beckman () angryox com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:16:15 -0400
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Joe Greco wrote:
I see usefulness in having scopes that are local (city/village/etc), state, country, and global. There's no reason that you couldn't start out local, and as you grew, get a state level domain (martyspizza.wi.us), and if you went national (martyspizza.us), etc. In many (most!) cases, businesses do not make significant growth in a rapid fashion.
The selfish will abuse the lack of RFC1480 management and go straight to martyspizza.us, even though they have one store, because it's available at the time.
Actually, that has to do with what I was talking about in continuing to develop a reasonable system. Quite frankly, if I was in that school district, I see no reason why my computer couldn't be aware of that domain, and actually have "http://john-muir" or some similar mechanism actually work. The ideal is probably more complex in implementation, but does not need to be more complex in use.
Does the DNS provider or ISP decide that? Or are you just referring to a bookmarking feature in your browser? Which then makes moot any RFC1480 friendly URL. Namespaces in DNS that are globally recognized are different than your example above.
I would agree that we don't need more TLD's. But the namespace, as it exists, is messy, and it's nasty to expect that people will always have to use a browser and a search engine to find their destination's domain name.
Nobody can or will cleanup the existing namespaces. New TLDs will continue to make them more messy. More court battles over new TLDs will come up. The wealthy will get their own TLDs (I can't afford .beckman, but I'm sure Beckman Instruments can, who already own beckman.com, and I'll just be screwed again), and small guys will not. Search engines and browser tools will render the value of domain names to approaching zero, .com will remain the namespace of choice, and that new TLDs will be for the wealthy i.e. http://google/ and http://coke/ and there will be more court battles for those trademarks. Beckman --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beckman () angryox com http://www.angryox.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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