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Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal
From: Matt Palmer <mpalmer () hezmatt org>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:30:35 +1100
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 10:49:48AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:33:20 PST, Owen DeLong said:And oddly enough, license plates on cars act *exactly the same way* - but nobody seems at all surprised when police can work backwards from a plate and come up with a suspect (who, admittedly, may not have been involved if the car was borrowed/stolen/etc).In order to be using the license plate, you had to be physically present in the car."It wasn't me at the hit-and-run, my car was stolen last night" "It wasn't me, my PC got zombied" Like I said, they work *exactly the same way*. But I'm giving up. We've got people here who work for companies that have business models that boil down to "given an IP address, figure out who to bill" - but although it identifies a person well enough to send them an invoice, they think it isn't enough to identify them.I wouldn't be suprised if in a few years some EU/US law mandates IP number portability, just like people have with their cellphones. Imagine what that will do to the routing tables. How many /32s can we get into the RIBs these days? :-)
That'd be a fun law to try and enforce, especially against the people who refuse to accept such long routes (which is, after all, the only thing that's stopping such long announcements from appearing already). Tunnels all over the place seems like the only way it'd even be halfway practical. It's more-or-less how phone number portability works anyway, from what (little) I know. - Matt
Current thread:
- The EU's and Google's official positions (was: EU Official: IP Is Personal), (continued)
- The EU's and Google's official positions (was: EU Official: IP Is Personal) michael.dillon (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Joe Greco (Jan 23)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Joseph S D Yao (Jan 23)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal fred (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Owen DeLong (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Hank Nussbacher (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Matt Palmer (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Andy Davidson (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Stephane Bortzmeyer (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Owen DeLong (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Jeff Shultz (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Joseph S D Yao (Jan 25)
- [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Martin Hannigan (Jan 25)