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RE: YouTube IP Hijacking
From: "Randy Epstein" <repstein () chello at>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:14:32 -0500
Arnd wrote:
You _need_ a license to drive a car, fly a plane etc. but until now you dont need to show that youre skilled enough to run a border router. Good idea? I dont think so.
My point was that even with a license, accidents still occur.
I believe that people who run ASNs should have the knowledge for it and that _someone_ should test this. Right now the LIRs seems to be the best institution for this. And no, i dont think the vendors should do this.
Vendors currently do train their customers and certify them. LIRs don't and cannot know all the gear out there and configurations from network to network vary. This doesn't stop route leaks, nor would this protect us from intentional mischief. I'm not saying it can't happen, but most leaks are caused by accident, and I might add by trained personnel and untrained personnel alike. Many of the suggestions that we've been seeing regarding this subject have pros and cons, but some even solve both problems: both accidental and intentional leaks. I am not against training personnel, but your solution doesn't resolve either of the above for the most part.
-- Arnd
Randy
Current thread:
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking, (continued)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Christopher Morrow (Feb 26)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Hank Nussbacher (Feb 24)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 25)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Matsuzaki Yoshinobu (Feb 25)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Hank Nussbacher (Feb 25)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Arnd Vehling (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Stephane Bortzmeyer (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Arnd Vehling (Feb 26)
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- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Randy Epstein (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Arnd Vehling (Feb 26)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Randy Epstein (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Arnd Vehling (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Jeroen Massar (Feb 26)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking michael.dillon (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Dave Pooser (Feb 26)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Tomas L. Byrnes (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Dave Pooser (Feb 26)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Steve Gibbard (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Danny McPherson (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking brett watson (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Stephane Bortzmeyer (Feb 26)