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Re: [NANOG] would ip6 help us safeing energy ?


From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:27:47 -0700

michael.dillon () bt com wrote:
NNTP, the historical firehose protocol, just floods it out
to everyone who hasn't seen it yet but actually, the consumers of
an NNTP feed have been set up statically in advance. And this static
setup does include knowledge of ISP's network topology, and knowledge
of the ISP's economic realities. I'd like to see a P2P protocol that
sets up paths dynamically, but allows for inputs as varied as those
old NNTP setups. There was also a time when LAN's had some form of
economic reality configured in, i.e. some users were only allowed
to log into the LAN during certain time periods on certain days.
Is there any ISP that wouldn't want some way to signal P2P clients
how to use spare bandwidth without ruining the network for other
paying customers?

I think it's safe to assume that isps are steering p2p traffic for the 
purposes of adjusting their ratios on peering and transit links...

while it lacks the intentionality of playing with the usenet 
spam/warez/porn firehose a little TE to shift it from one exit to 
another when you have lots of choices is presumably a useful knob to have.

Layer violations to tell applications that they should care about some 
peers in their overlay network vs others seems like something with a lot 
of potential uninteded consequences.

--Michael Dillon
 

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