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Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)


From: John Curran <jcurran () mail com>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:37:08 -0400


At 7:56 PM +0930 9/30/07, Mark Prior wrote:

It would be nice to see some evidence of some forward motion but I don't
see any. The vendors seem to point at a lack of demand and the ISPs
claim a lack of support from the vendors and/or not customer demand.

It's going to get real interesting, since (in general):

1) Customers aren't going to ask for IPv6 (it's not their problem)
2) ISP's may plan a few years out, but don't make capital commitments
    until they're absolutely required.
3) It takes most vendors 3 to 6 months to move requirements through
    marketing and 1 year plus for engineering and chip design.

Alas, this particular feature set (functional IPv6 and transition tools)
is not just one new protocol feature or option; it's an order of magnitude
more complex and will take ISP's months (or even years) to deploy.

It's amazing that got the need for the new protocol right more than a
decade ago, but seemed to have left all the details to the last minute.

If the ISPs tried to deploy it for themselves then perhaps this current
impasse could be broken and the current shortcomings would then have
some visibility with the vendors and that might encourage the IETF to
address the real issues.

Agreed.

A quick look at some of the usual suspects shows not much consumption of
their own dog food.
...
<http://www.mrp.net/ISP.html>

Very nice chart!
/John


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