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RE: Misguided SPAM Filtering techniques


From: "David Schwartz" <davids () webmaster com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:28:01 -0700



Dave Pooser wrote:

We had a client whose RFP vanished into thin air because of that-- he sent
it from a hotel that practiced port 25 hijacking and had had their IP
blacklisted for spewing much spam and viruses. So our server rejected the
message, and when it tried to send the NDN to him *his* server
rejected the
NDN for the same reason. Fortunately he called the next day with some
details he'd omitted....

I recommended he go back with an army of Huns and raze the hotel, but he
settled for a nasty letter and using 587/TLS in future.

You should have used the oppurtunity to educate your customer. Email is a
best-effort, no receipt service. It is simply not appropriate to use for
business-critical communication without some kind of confirmation of
receipt.

The hotel didn't really do the wrong thing. It took the email and made a
best effort to deliver it. When it failed, it made a best effort to alert
the sender. That is what email is supposed to be like.

Obviously, they've had a spam problem. So just passing port 25 unmolested
would not be right. Blocking it is not a very good solution either because
people who are not sophisticated will just be unable to send mail. People
who are sophisticated won't be using port 25 outbound from odd net locations
anyway.

You should blame whoever decided not to accept *any* email from the hotel
just because *some* of the email was spam. That person knew or should have
know that some of that email might be business critical. Hmm, that was
*YOU*.

Perhaps you are using a misguided spam filtering technique? How many RFPs
are you willing to lose to reduce spam?

DS



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