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Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian () creative net au>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:11:43 +0800
On Tue, May 15, 2007, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
michael.dillon () bt com wrote:Addressing the complaint that my response to Gadi was too harsh, I can only say that, to someone who isn't aware of the history, my response may seem harsh,I *AM* aware of the history and your response seems harsh. Especially so because you complained about a message which was about exploits in CPE access routers, not botnets. Any kind of router vulnerability/exploit is on topic for NANOG. And people who don't take the trouble to read messages and critique the message content, should not post to the list at all. We don't need you using NANOG to fight your personal flamewar with Gadi.I don't see cpe as being all that different than hosts, except that they're slower and less flexible.
I see them as more flexible - they don't have a CPE in front of them potentially being a firewall, they can listen() on ports for p2p botnet type action, and they can silently redirect your traffic to completely different IPs or return bogus DNS info, they can see inside your home network and be counted as "internal internet zone" to IE.. (perhaps not operational per-se, but pretty freaking scary.) Adrian
Current thread:
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive, (continued)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Stephen Satchell (May 12)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Ross Hosman (May 16)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Gadi Evron (May 16)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Peter Dambier (May 17)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Fergie (May 12)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Gadi Evron (May 12)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Kradorex Xeron (May 12)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Albert Meyer (May 15)
- RE: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive michael.dillon (May 15)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Joel Jaeggli (May 15)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Adrian Chadd (May 15)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Joe Greco (May 15)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive alex (May 15)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Ian Mason (May 15)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Gadi Evron (May 15)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Joel Jaeggli (May 16)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Gadi Evron (May 16)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Barry Shein (May 16)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Joe Abley (May 16)
- Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive Peter Dambier (May 15)
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