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Re: Broadband routers and botnets - being proactive


From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:35:41 GMT


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- -- "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists () gmail com> wrote:

On 5/12/07, Albert Meyer <from_nanog () corenap com> wrote:

I and numerous others (including some whom any reasonable NANOG-L poster
would respect and listen to) have asked you repeatedly to stop trolling
NANOG-L with this botnet crap. It is off-topic here. The last time you
pulled this (starting 


As frequent as Gadi is with his botnet posts, insecure and wide open
CPE getting deployed across a large provider is definitely
operational.

Suresh is right -- if you don't think CPE compromises are an
operational problem, then I'm not sure what is. :-)

[changing gears]

I'll even go a step further, and say that if ISPs keep punting
on the whole botnet issue, and continue to think of themselves
as 'common carriers' in some sense -- and continue to disengage
on the issue -- then you may eventually forced to address those
issues at some point in the not-so-distant future.

I understand the financial disincentives, etc., but if the problem
continues to grow and fester, and consumer (and financial institutions)
losses grow larger, things may take a really ugly turn.

$.02,

- - ferg

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