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Re: Yahoo outage summary
From: jared mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:19:29 -0400
On Jul 9, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:18:25 -0000, "Chris L. Morrow" said:While S*BGP seem like they may offer additional protections and additionalknobs to be used for protecting 'us' from 'them', the very basics areobviously not being done so added complexity is not going to really help :( Or, perhaps its not that its not going to help its just not going toget done because even prefix-lists are 'too hard', apparently."Wow, prefix-lists are *hard*" -- BGP Barbie.. You'd think that by now, we as an industry could do better than that.
I agree that we need something better but nobody has shown me a better system than prefix lists and irr that actually *works*.
The simple truth is that prefix lists ARE hard to manage. There are a lot of folks that have complex relationships or don't see why they should register their routes. Some people lack tools and automation to make it work or to manage their networks. It would be nice to see everyone filter routes, including those from even transit and large peers. I don't think we will be able to ignore this forever. I also do not see the status quo changing soon either.
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- Yahoo outage summary Marcus H. Sachs (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Steven M. Bellovin (Jul 08)
- RE: Yahoo outage summary Marcus H. Sachs (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Ricardo V. Oliveira (Jul 08)
- RE: Yahoo outage summary Marcus H. Sachs (Jul 08)
- RE: Yahoo outage summary Chris L. Morrow (Jul 08)
- RE: Yahoo outage summary Sean Donelan (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 09)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Chris L. Morrow (Jul 09)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary jared mauch (Jul 09)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 09)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Florian Weimer (Jul 09)
- RE: Yahoo outage summary Marcus H. Sachs (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Steven M. Bellovin (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Lixia Zhang (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Cat Okita (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Andy Dills (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Sam Stickland (Jul 10)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Roland Dobbins (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Randy Bush (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Roland Dobbins (Jul 08)
- Re: Yahoo outage summary Tony Tauber (Jul 09)