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Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen () sprunk org>
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:13:14 -0500
Thus spake "Bill Stewart" <nonobvious () gmail com>
One of my customers comments that he doesn't care about jumbograms of 9K or 4K - what he really wants is to be sure the networks support MTUs of at least 1600-1700 bytes, so that various combinations of IPSEC, UDP-padding, PPPoE, etc. don't break the real 1500-byte packets underneath.
This is a more realistic case, and support for "baby jumbos" of 2kB to 3kB is almost universal even on mid-range networking gear. However, the problems of getting it deployed are mostly the same, except one can take the end nodes out of the picture in the simplest case.
OTOH, if we had a viable solution to the variable-MTU mess in the first place, you could just upgrade every network to the largest MTU possible and hosts would figure out what the PMTU was and nobody would be sending 1500-byte packets; they'd be either something like 1400 bytes or 9000 bytes, depending on whether the path included segments that hadn't been upgraded yet...
S Stephen Sprunk "Those people who think they know everything CCIE #3723 are a great annoyance to those of us who do."K5SSS --Isaac Asimov
Current thread:
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet, (continued)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Fred Baker (Apr 13)
- 1500 does not work: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Peter Dambier (Apr 14)
- Re: 1500 does not work: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Marshall Eubanks (Apr 14)
- Re: 1500 does not work: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Petri Helenius (Apr 14)
- Re: 1500 does not work: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Marshall Eubanks (Apr 15)
- Re: 1500 does not work: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Petri Helenius (Apr 15)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Fred Baker (Apr 13)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Douglas Otis (Apr 14)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 14)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Bill Stewart (Apr 14)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Randy Bush (Apr 14)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Stephen Sprunk (Apr 14)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Douglas Otis (Apr 14)