Re: So -- what did happen to Panix?

["Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>]

In message <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601260832510.15682 () netcore fi>, Pekka Savola writes:
> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
> > In other words - what is the business case for deploying this proposed
> > solution?  I may be able to get things deployed at $WORK by arguing that
> > it's The Right Thing To Do, but at most shops an ROI calculation needs
> > to be attached to get movement....
>
> Exactly.  If $OTHER_FOLKS don't deploy it, cases like Panix may not 
> really be avoided.
>
> I think that's what folks proposing perfect -- but practically 
> undeployable -- security solutions are missing.

That is, of course, why I asked the question -- I'm trying to 
understand the actual failure modes and feasible fixes.  I agree that 
many of the solutions proposed thus far are hard to deploy; some 
colleagues and I are working on variants that we think are deployable.  
But we need data first.

                --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb