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Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant"
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme () multicasttech com>
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:22:37 -0500
If AT&T is really claiming that their backbone has less than 15 Mbps capacity (which is how "the backbone doesn't transport at those speeds" reads in plain English), this is either
- an April Fools joke or - pitiful. Regards Marshall Eubanks On Apr 1, 2006, at 1:50 AM, Bruce Pinsky wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060331-6498.html "In the foreseeable future, having a 15 Mbps Internet capability isirrelevant because the backbone doesn't transport at those speeds," he told the conference attendees. Stephenson said that AT&T's field tests have shown "no discernable difference" between AT&T's 1.5 Mbps service and Comcast's 6 Mbps because the problem is not in the last mile but inthe backbone."Is this something held generally true in the US, or is it just pointedhair-talk? Sounds like "nobody should need more than 640kb of memory" all over again.I can definately see a difference between 2 meg, 8 meg and even faster,even when web browsing, especially transferring large pictures whenrunning gallery or alike. When I load www.cnn.com with 130ms latency Iget over 1 megabit/s and that's transatlantic with a lot of smallobjects to fetch. Most major newspapers here in Sweden will load at 5-10megabit/s for me, and downloading streaming content (www.youtube.com)will easily download at 10-20 megabit/s if bw is available. flickr.comaround a couple of megabits/s. (all measured with task-manager in XP, very scientific :P)I can relate to there being a sweetspot around 1.5-3 megs/s when largerspeed doesn't really give you a whole lot of more experience with webbrowsing, but the more people will start to use services like youtube.com, the more bw they will need at their local pipe and of course backbone should be non-blocking or close to it...Sounds like FUD to me... Perhaps trying to downplay the push to FIOS????? - -- ========= bep -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFELiK/E1XcgMgrtyYRAuxsAKDbn3HfYeEw7aSESqnniC1B23KENACdHkXc Bcxm4o1CnWKXkpMvoM7qsno= =Xg6U -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Sean Donelan (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" David Lesher (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Randy Bush (Apr 02)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Michael . Dillon (Apr 03)
- Listen to all the companies spin (was Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant") Sean Donelan (Apr 03)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Randy Bush (Apr 02)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Joe Provo (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Daniel Senie (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Sean Donelan (Apr 01)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Marshall Eubanks (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Jon Lewis (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Edward B. DREGER (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Robert Boyle (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Jon Lewis (Apr 01)
- RE: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Frank Bulk (Apr 01)
- RE: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Edward B. DREGER (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Simon Lockhart (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Marshall Eubanks (Apr 01)
- RE: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Sean Donelan (Apr 01)
- RE: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Edward B. DREGER (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Simon Lockhart (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" Marshall Eubanks (Apr 01)
- Re: AT&T: 15 Mbps Internet connections "irrelevant" David Lesher (Apr 01)