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Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:30:11 -0400

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:00:14 CDT, Robert Bonomi said:

1) _Who_says_ it is 'false data'?  *Who*knows* what that machines is 'supposed'
to provide TO WHOM?

I think if you are handing another machine an NTP packet that's intentionally
set several months off just to get them to shut up, you *know* the answer
to "is it false data".

I submit that;
1) If the query originator is 'entitled' to make assumptions about what the

2) It would seem that the server operator is *equally* 'entitled' to make 
   assumptions about what the query means, and
3) to respond in a manner consistent with _his_ understanding of what the
   query originater 'wanted'.

If the query originator fails to 'get what he wanted', due to his failure
to communicate _in_advance_ with the server operator, *WHO* is to blame?

I suppose pointing out that the Internet works because providers *cooperate*
and *agree on protocols* would be pointless....

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