Re: Multi-6 [WAS: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google]

[Daniel Senie <dts () senie com>]

At 03:19 PM 9/13/2005, you wrote:
> So where were you the past years in multi6 and months in shim6?
> Please be part of the solution and not part of the problem. (That
> goes for John Payne and Daniel Senie too.)

I was there in the beginning for Multi6. When I saw the direction(s) 
that were being considered, I decided the whole concept was a 
non-starter and spent my budget of IETF hours on other areas that had 
a chance of being useful.

Just how many IETF groups do you participate in? In how many 
different IETF areas? Do you also get other work done? Most folks 
(perhaps including you) have limited amounts of time to spend on IETF 
work. Some folks get paid to do such work by their employers, while 
others don't.

At what point does it make sense as a participant in a working group 
to look at the direction and sense of the room and decide that no 
amount of arguing is going to keep a trainwreck from occurring?

Rereading the paragraph I responded to, however, I'm starting to 
wonder how close it, and possibly also my response, are to ad hominum 
territory. I'm not sure I should be having to defend my choices in 
where to spend or not spend my time on IETF activities.