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Re: Katrina Network Damage Report
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:47:00 +0200
On 12-sep-2005, at 2:47, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
In other words: 0wning random appliances isn't all that interesting.
Amazingly enough, the *single* biggest problem in trying to get JoeSixpack to secure their systems is "But I don't have anything they'd beinterested in..."
Security isn't an end in itself. For instance, I don't care enough about people using up my paper and ink to secure my print server against remote printing. However, I do care about my passwords, documents and so on.
In fact, I would much rather allow access to pretty much anything else rather than a powerful general-purpose computer.
On the other hand, if it's got enough smarts to do an IPv6 stack and haveenough left over to have something interesting to say, it's probably "powerful enough" for miscreants to think of creative and interesting uses for it, even if it *is* just a toaster....
I think I didn't make my point clear. On a general purpose computer, you can install new software to make it do whatever you want. Not so for most appliances. (Although if they have way to upgrade their flash or whatever that would be a way in.)
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- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 11)
- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Alan Spicer (Sep 11)
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- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 13)
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- Re: Katrina Network Damage Report Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 11)
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