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Re: IPv6 news
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen () sprunk org>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:47:42 -0500
Thus spake "Kevin Loch" <kloch () hotnic net>
Randy Bush wrote:and don't you just love the suggestions of natting v6?No, but I would like to see consumer routers support rfc3068 (automatic 6to4 tunneling) by default when there is no native IPv6 access service. If we could convince manufacturers that rfc3068 is "NAT" for ipv6 they'll probably jump right on it :)
That's probably the best suggestion yet for getting consumers on IPv6; MS has even included support for 6to4 and Teredo in XP, just waiting to be turned on. There's millions of people out there that have, with one 6to4 relay alone showing a tenfold increase in machines over the last year; that's going to be a significant number of eyeballs in another year.
Unfortunately, while there's lots of great support for 6to4 in the open-source WRT software, somehow Linksys et al still haven't managed to get the feature (or even simple v6 support) into their standard releases. I have a pre-WRT Linksys which won't even support allowing 6in4/6to4 traffic through from my XP box.
RFC 3068 also has another problem -- not enough relays, or at least not enough in logical locations. From my home in Texas, a traceroute shows the topologically "closest" instance of 192.88.99.1 to be in France. Nice to see that GBLX's "native" IPv6 network doesn't have any 6to4 relays in the US, and that AT&T doesn't have any at all. (Or if they do, they need serious anycast tuning)
I'm not convinced that businesses will be interested in 6to4 or Teredo, though; most will want PI space and a native pipe just like they have with v4.
S Stephen Sprunk "Those people who think they know everything CCIE #3723 are a great annoyance to those of us who do."K5SSS --Isaac Asimov
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 news, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 news Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Stephen Sprunk (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 news Joseph S D Yao (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 news william(at)elan.net (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Sean Figgins (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Fred Baker (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Randy Bush (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news K. Scott Bethke (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Randy Bush (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Kevin Loch (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Stephen Sprunk (Oct 14)
- Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Todd Vierling (Oct 14)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Daniel Roesen (Oct 14)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Todd Vierling (Oct 14)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Daniel Roesen (Oct 14)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Nicholas Suan (Oct 14)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Bernhard Schmidt (Oct 15)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Marshall Eubanks (Oct 15)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border Simon Leinen (Oct 16)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border Todd Vierling (Oct 16)
- Re: IPv6 news Michael . Dillon (Oct 17)