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Re: High volume WHOIS queries
From: joe mcguckin <joe () via net>
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 01:12:11 -0800
How about caching the data from previous ARIN whois lookups? I do agree that the bulk data and high volume limitations on whois servers are silly... -joe On 2/28/05 1:30 PM, "Dan Lockwood" <dlockwood () shastacoe org> wrote:
I'm in a disagreement with ARIN about my application for bulk whois data. I've got a software program that needs resolve AS numbers to the Company Name of the owner. The software app has need to do this on a very high volume. E.g. I run a report that returns the top 100 AS destinations for my network and I want to resolve the numbers to the names as part of the report generation. Since ARIN throttles the number of queries that you can execute against their servers I seems to "just make sense" that you would do the processing using local data. That is all fine and good, but the problem comes when I distribute the software to users. ARIN's AUP for bulk whois states: "Redistributing bulk ARIN WHOIS data is explicitly forbidden. It is permissible to publish the data on an individual query or small number of queries at a time basis, as long as reasonable precautions are taken to prevent automated querying by database harvesters." My original AUP application stated that I would transfer the data to the users using an XML file on a regular basis. Clearly in violation of the first point. Fine. But now after a phone conversation they are telling me that I can not operate a server to distribute the data on a "per query" basis too. Providing a server that answers whois queries just like ARIN seems to be clearly permissible based on the remaining AUP verbage. At this point the only thing I can get out of the guy/gal on the phone is "NO!". Does anyone have any experience doing something like this? How about a sanity check? Am I completely wrong in how I'm interpreting the AUP? Thanks, Dan
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Current thread:
- High volume WHOIS queries Dan Lockwood (Feb 28)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries joe mcguckin (Mar 01)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 01)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Paul G (Mar 01)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Jeff Bartig (Mar 01)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Larry J. Blunk (Mar 01)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Hank Nussbacher (Mar 02)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Daniel Senie (Mar 02)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 01)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries joe mcguckin (Mar 01)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: High volume WHOIS queries Hannigan, Martin (Mar 01)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Paul G (Mar 01)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Bill Nash (Mar 01)
- [off-list] Re: High volume WHOIS queries Rich Kulawiec (Mar 01)
- Re: High volume WHOIS queries Paul G (Mar 01)