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Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast...
From: Jason Slagle <raistlin () tacorp net>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:09:37 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
I am not sure what Verizon you are talking about, but the Verizon in my area (aka Bell Atlantic, aka New Jersey Bell) (at least used to) have, for some reason, have a cat 5000 in between us and the DSLAM. We see about 27 or so PVC's for the whole state. Verizon refers to these PVC's as PVC's to each 'switch.' Conjecture is that there is some insane type of LANE and god knows what going on. You run PPPOE over this, and in some limited cases, it's stable.
That seems to be how the SBC model works here. It's not bad, except when they forget to tell you about a new Redback device they turn up.
In Verizonland here, they will just deliver you a PVC per customer, and you get to pick how you want to provision them (1483/PPPOE/etc). This seems to be better in some cases, as you can do RFC1483 then and not have MTU issues. If SBC would run larger MTU's internally so you could do do 1500 with PPPoE, it wouldn't be as bad.
Yes, many LECs under your feet is interesting. Within 100 miles of our office, we have more than I can even think of (Verizon-NJ Bell, Verizon-NYNEX, Verizon-PA, Verizon-GTE, Sprint/United, Warwick Valley Telephone, SBC-SNET, Citizens-Frontier, RCI-Frontier.
Ha!I think Putnam County, OH holds the record of most telco's in a county. Take a look at this map:
http://www.puc.state.oh.us/pucogis/statemap/phone_e.pdf Jason -- Jason Slagle /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign . X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . / \ - NO Word docs in e-mail .
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- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast..., (continued)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Alex Rubenstein (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Jared Mauch (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Andy Johnson (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Christopher L. Morrow (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... just me (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Steve Sobol (Apr 18)
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- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Jay R. Ashworth (Apr 19)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Chris Woodfield (Apr 23)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Alex Rubenstein (Apr 18)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Alex Rubenstein (Apr 19)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Jason Slagle (Apr 19)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Matt Taber (Apr 19)
- Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast... Bill Stewart (Apr 24)