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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden
From: Barry Shein <bzs () world std com>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:09:24 -0400
On April 28, 2005 at 09:09 adil () adis on ca (Adi Linden) wrote:
Its not up to the ISP to determine outbound malicious traffic, but its up to the ISP to respond in a timely manner to complaints. Many (most?) do not.If they did their support costs would explode. It is block the customer, educate the customer why they were blocked, exterminate the customers PC, unblock the customer. No doubt there'll be a repeat of the same in short time.
This mantra is often repeated but their costs are going to explode anyhow as the defensive blocking of them goes on, world-wide, and their customers want to know why they can no longer send email or browse in random, and ever-growing, chunks of IP space (and, frustrated, find new providers.) Only that situation is going to be much more expensive to fix since it's others' IP space they'll need to get policy changes in, not their own. -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs () TheWorld com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo*
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