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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden
From: Adi Linden <adil () adis on ca>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:17:53 -0500
And how exactly does that translate to the online world?
It doesn't. There is none or very little punishment for lawlessness and missbehaviour in the online world.
Despite the safety and environmental regulations and the fact that you have to have a driver's license and insurance (at least here in NL), there is no requirement that your locks are industrial strength. Or that your car can be locked at all, for that matter.
There is a clear understanding of right and wrong in the general population. There is law enforcement and meaning full punishment for crooks and thieves. In the online world I have no recurse against anyone compromising my computer.
The fact that a compromised computer doesn't really hurt you all that much in the real world is exactly the reason why so many users don't care about security. When driving a car they at least have to be drunk to reach that level of carelessness.
The fact is that in the online world the abuser is laughing while the abused is left to clean up the damage. Because a compromised computer doesn't really hurt most do not even know that they are a victim. Adi
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