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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:43:02 +0200
On 28-apr-2005, at 16:21, Adi Linden wrote:
So I do I obtain your permission to send you a packet?
By replying to my request.
So ask your ISP to NAT you. (Most people do this themselves but you seem to feel filtering out unwanted packets isn't something you want to do.) You won't receive any packets that aren't responses to your request, so you'll be be very happy that way.
Of course you can't use VoIP reliably or engage in other peer-to-peer protocols with others who feel the same way.
And where in the packet does it show that the packet comes from someone who has said permission?
The packet only exists if it is in response to my request. Keep in mindthat I am talking about enduser PC here.
I guess there are people who are happy with always being the requester and never being the requestee... Fortunately that isn't true for the entire population.
Current thread:
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden, (continued)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steve Sobol (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steven Champeon (Apr 29)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steven Champeon (Apr 29)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 29)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Steven Champeon (Apr 29)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Nicholas Suan (Apr 30)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Adi Linden (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Adi Linden (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Owen DeLong (Apr 28)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Stephen J. Wilcox (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 27)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Mark Newton (Apr 26)
- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Owen DeLong (Apr 27)
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- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Bill Stewart (Apr 27)