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Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:33:15 -0500
In a message written on Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 09:09:08AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
I will point out, however, that if the boundary moves to /24, there's not much difference between the allocation policy of the past that created the swamp and current allocation policy. I'm not saying I think this is a bad thing (I don't). I think that CIDR was important in its day, and, I think it is important today. However, I think that now, CIDR is only important in so far as it promotes aggregation where it makes sense. Deaggregating where it matters is a valid and necessary thing.
I think Owen is well aware of the differences, but for the list's archive... I think a major difference is that the current policy requires you to be multihomed. Another difference is that you have to pay a maintenance fee. There are a lot of blocks in the swamp where end sites received space because they could, and the lack of fees was a motivator. There are also a lot of blocks given out to entities that were then, and are now single homed. It's also the case that the industry as a whole has progressed. With ISP's having good processes to give the customers the space they need, and with technologies like DHCP and the like it is much easier for many end users to live with IP's from their upstream, even if they change once in a while. Couple that with a (very small) amount of paperwork and fees and you do cut out many of the frivolous uses. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request () tmbg org, www.tmbg.org
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- RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery, (continued)
- RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 23)
- RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Tony Hain (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Steven M. Bellovin (Nov 24)
- RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Tony Hain (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Michael . Dillon (Nov 25)
- Re: geography to get PI in v6 (was: ULA and RIR cost-recovery) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 25)
- RE: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Måns Nilsson (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Roesen (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Leo Bicknell (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Leo Bicknell (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Pekka Savola (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Pekka Savola (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 30)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Crist Clark (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Michael . Dillon (Nov 25)
- MTU (was Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery) Alex Bligh (Nov 25)
- Re: MTU (was Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery) Bill Owens (Nov 25)