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Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:45:36 -0800

Any org viewing ASNs as a scarce resource is wasting money keeping ASNs.
Any org that financially broken will probably not continue to pay it's
bills in the long run.

I believe these are the exception and not the rule.  Like I said, the
long-term answer to this is 32bit ASNs.  I don't think hoarding will account
for a significant portion of the ASN space in the long run.

Owen


--On Friday, November 19, 2004 6:48 AM -0600 "J.A. Terranson" <alif.terranson () gmail com> wrote:


On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:28:55 +0100, Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org>
wrote:
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 08:18 +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:


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> On 2004-11-16, at 02.24, Owen DeLong wrote:
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> > ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal.  While this is a
> > small charge and doesn't go up based on the number of ASNs, so, not
> > 100% effective at reclaiming all unused resources, it does, at least,
> > reclaim resources in use by defunct organizations that are no longer
> > paying the maintenance for them.

Yes, but what about the (dozens, hundreds?) of entities that are
hoarding (and renewing) ASNs?  These unused resources are gone forever
- since they are seen as a scarce resource, they are kept artificially
alive (even though the orgs know full well there is neither a use nor
a justification for them).


//Alif



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