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Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:01:26 +0100
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 06:48 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:28:55 +0100, Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org> wrote:On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 08:18 +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-11-16, at 02.24, Owen DeLong wrote:ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal. While this is a small charge and doesn't go up based on the number of ASNs, so, not 100% effective at reclaiming all unused resources, it does, at least, reclaim resources in use by defunct organizations that are no longer paying the maintenance for them.Yes, but what about the (dozens, hundreds?) of entities that are hoarding (and renewing) ASNs? These unused resources are gone forever - since they are seen as a scarce resource, they are kept artificially alive (even though the orgs know full well there is neither a use nor a justification for them).
Then demonstrate to the RIR's that the ASN is unused or kept artificially alive and let them recover it... Nobody is complaining about companies who simply registered [a-z]*.com for instance... someone will make profit, good for them and you are too late to jump into that game. That is always with scarce resources. The first persons to say that gold was special and had a high value is (most likely, nanog !=history) quite wealthy now, just like some folks who got some nice /8's in the beginning don't have an address shortage, domains where available for the pickup in the beginning etc... Greets, Jeroen
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- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?, (continued)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Simon Lockhart (Nov 13)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 14)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 15)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 15)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Nov 15)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Owen DeLong (Nov 15)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Nov 15)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Jeroen Massar (Nov 15)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Nov 16)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? J.A. Terranson (Nov 19)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Jeroen Massar (Nov 19)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Owen DeLong (Nov 19)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Alex Bligh (Nov 16)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Ryan O'Connell (Nov 18)
- Re: Returning unused ASNs (was: IPV6 renumbering painless?) leo vegoda (Nov 19)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Paul Vixie (Nov 12)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Stephen Sprunk (Nov 13)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Randy Bush (Nov 13)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Paul Vixie (Nov 13)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? John Curran (Nov 13)
- Re: IPV6 renumbering painless? Joe Abley (Nov 13)