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Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?


From: Daniel Roesen <dr () cluenet de>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:26:11 +0100


On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 05:19:36PM +0100, Simon Leinen wrote:
"specified the entire 128 bits"... how do you specify only part of
it?

On Solaris, you would use the "token" option (see the extract from
"man ifconfig" output below).  You can simply put "token ::1234:5678"
into /etc/hostname6.bge0.  I assume that other sane OSes have similar
mechanisms.

Ah thanks. No, not seen anywhere in Linux or *BSD.

What determines the rest?

The prefix advertised in prefix advertisements.

OK, but this doesn't have any effect on your "Listen",
"NameVirtualHost" and "<VirtualHost>" statements of your httpd.conf,
"ListenAddress" in sshd.conf, "Bind" in proftpd.conf, "*-source" and
"listen-on*" in named.conf, [...]

Not to forget all the IP address based ACLs.

"fixed" as in "now using stateless autoconfig"? Fun... change NIC
and you need to change DNS. Thanks, but no thanks. Not for
non-mobile devices which need to be reachable with sessions
initiated from remote (basically: servers).

The above mechanism solves this problem even with stateless
autoconfiguration.  Agree?

The NIC-change problem? Yes, agreed. But generates new problem: Plug
server accidently in wrong VLAN (and thus other subnet) and you'll
might get an IP address collision. I know ND DAD prevents the worst
for that case in the immediate term, but when the original holder
gets reconnected/rebootet, THIS one is off their air. But you're right,
typos in IPv4 might provoke similar desasters so I rest this specific
case. :-)

I think it's an advantage if servers can get their prefixes from
router announcements rather than from local config files.  Sure, you
still have to update the DNS at some point(s) during renumbering, but
that can't be avoided anyway.

Given that a server often has to know it's exact IP address very
often (especially if it has multiple IP addresses associated with
it's public interface), it's not a real relief compared to the other
struggles you have when subnet changes.


Regards,
Daniel

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