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Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG


From: <albertpublic () hushmail com>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:37:38 -0800


Greg,

Let me spell it out crystal clear so you can understand.  Are you, or
are you not, the Gregory 
Taylor referenced in the URL's I sent below?

Albert P.
(signing his real name so Susan won't remove him from the list)

maturity in its purest form.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: <albertpublic () hushmail com>
Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:17:42 -0800


I've noticed a number of shining stars in the network engineering
industry
have graced us 
with their presence and infinite wisdom in the past few days, including
Gregory Taylor.   I 
can't help but wonder if this is the same who launched multi-gigabit
DDoS attacks against 
IRC servers and major ISP's recently:

http://www.geocities.com/osek_owned/
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=osek

Coincidence?  You decide.  Better yet, call his mother at 1-253-
475-1227,
and let her know 
you don't approve of his hacking activities.  If enough of us put
the
pressure on, it's possible 
he'll be grounded, and his computer priviledges will be revoked.
It's
happened before, it can 
happen again.   

For those of you wondering, "Xpert Web Builders" (XWB.COM) is bogus.
They don't operate a 
network, they're a sole proprietorship tech support and web dev
group,
run by some clue-
challenged kids who don't even have the cashflow needed to invest
in
a post-paid cellular 
phone.

Then there's Andrew Kirch, aka "trelane", who just published a
fascinating
(albeit highly 
technically inaccurate, and bearing little or no basis in reality)

whitepaper on the "script kiddie culture":

http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/02/28/0130209.shtml

Only problem is, he hangs out on EFNet in #sigdie, a channel known
in
security circles as a 
place where large-scale DDoS attacks, usually involving 1000's
of 
drone nets or otherwise compromised machines,  are coordinated.
Takes
one to know one, I 
guess.  The fun doesn't stop there: he's publicly admitted to helping

packet IRC servers before!       

I'm still working on building a rap sheet on Kirch's friend, Brian
Bruns,
and their "Summit 
Open Source Development Group" (which, by all accounts, is a 
legitimate-looking front for their not-so-legitimate activities).
If
anyone has any info, mail 
me privately, and I'll summarize.



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