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Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS)
From: Avleen Vig <lists-nanog () silverwraith com>
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 03:59:08 -0800
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 02:13:38AM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:
Try saying that after running a major DDoS target, with "HIT ME" your forehead. No offense Sean but I'd like you to back your claim up with some impirical data first.Has the number of DDOS attacks increased or decreased in the last few years has uRPF has become more widely deployed? Do you have any evidence the number of attacks are decreasing?
Without any data to back this up, I'm estimating based on the attacks I've dealt with. I don't believe the number have gone down at all. If it has, it's done that for someone else, not me, I don't have any evidence. Nor do I *believe* the number of attacks is decreasing. If anything, its staying the same or going up, as more people decide it's fun to take networks offline through the greater and greater number of compromised hosts. If you want to do a little test, try this: In the last 5 years, compromised hosts have become a favourite for launching DDoS attacks from. If the number of compromised hosts with outbound Internet access has gone up, then either the frequency of attacks, or the amplitude of said attacks, or both have gone UP. We all know the number of compromised hosts continues to go up. The rest is simple logic. -- Avleen Vig Systems Administrator
Current thread:
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS), (continued)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Avleen Vig (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Sean Donelan (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Paul Vixie (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Avleen Vig (Mar 08)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Ken Diliberto (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Paul Vixie (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Avleen Vig (Mar 06)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Sean Donelan (Mar 06)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Paul Vixie (Mar 06)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Dan Hollis (Mar 06)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Avleen Vig (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Christopher L. Morrow (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Avleen Vig (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) fingers (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Christopher L. Morrow (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) vijay gill (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Paul Vixie (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) Christopher L. Morrow (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation Paul Vixie (Mar 07)
- Re: Source address validation (was Re: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS) E.B. Dreger (Mar 07)