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RE: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?]
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 21:37:12 +0200 (CEST)
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Michael Smith wrote:
1) 1 Rack 2) Space for the rack in a secure facility 3) AC for the equipment 4) Power for the equipment (including line and UPS)
This can be had for approx $300-1000 a month in my market.
5) Fiber and Copper runs to the facility for cross-connects 6) Terminations of (5)
This is carried on a per connection basis in my market.
7) O&M of space and gear
$50-100k over three years isn't that much.
8) Layer 8 and 9 negotiation of (1) through (7) to keep costs down.
I'd say that the time spent in negotiations is wasted, manpower is too expensive compared to the costs involved.
Thankfully, there is some altruism on the behalf of several parties that allow the exchange to continue providing "zero cost" connections to participants. I hardly think the cost of their time and effort is "marginal".
In the big picture it's marginal. Asking someone to patch a cable is a 10 minute job and the patch cable costs perhaps 30-50 dollars. Handling an invoice for this job is a major cost in the equation so yes, altruism is great. We gathered players that already had engineers, already had billing departments, already had all of the above you were referring to and get everybody to agree on a way to cooperate. The marginal costs for everybody to establish 5 PoPs and interconnecting them was quite low and since there are no billing being done between participants, that cuts down on paperwork as well. It's like a car pool. If everybody is going to bill everybody it's going to be a big operation. If you just agree to drive every fourth day and carry your own costs, everybody is better off. I realise from everybody who answered that we live in different markets and do things differently. I just think you're making it too advanced and that increases cost until public IXes stop to make sense. Keep it simple. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
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- RE: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?] Michael Smith (Jul 03)
- RE: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?] Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 03)
- Re: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?] Richard A Steenbergen (Jul 03)
- Re: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?] Bill Woodcock (Jul 04)
- Re: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?] Steve Gibbard (Jul 05)
- Re: concern over public peering points Niels Bakker (Jul 05)
- Re: concern over public peering points Christopher L. Morrow (Jul 05)
- Re: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?] joe mcguckin (Jul 05)
- Re: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?] vijay gill (Jul 05)