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Re: Outbound Route Optimization


From: vijay gill <vgill () vijaygill com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:20:16 +0000


On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 09:05:46PM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:

            My questions are these:

"Is sub-optimal routing caused by BGP so pervasive it needs to be
addressed?" 

that depends on your isp, and whether their routing policies (openness
or closedness of peering, shortest vs. longest exit, respect for MEDs)
are a good match for their technology/tools, skills/experience, and
resources/headroom.

In practice, all of the above just turn out to be marketing sauce
or in some cases, outright lies.

There is no substitute for dollar spend (opex and capex) to make
a network perform.  There is no magic sauce, there is no silver
bullet. You have adequate resources, you will have adequate
performance.

metrics, which is usually not very good.  but there's another limit, which
is bgp path symmetry.  most tcp implementations are still stone-aged

AKA optimizing for outbound doesn't do you any good on optimizing
for inbound.

(experience says they're not going to trust your MEDs even if they're close
enough to hear them.)

Most people don't trust MEDs for a reason paul, and it is not because
they want to mess with your customers.

/vijay


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