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Re: Outbound Route Optimization
From: vijay gill <vgill () vijaygill com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:20:16 +0000
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 09:05:46PM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:
My questions are these: "Is sub-optimal routing caused by BGP so pervasive it needs to be addressed?"that depends on your isp, and whether their routing policies (openness or closedness of peering, shortest vs. longest exit, respect for MEDs) are a good match for their technology/tools, skills/experience, and resources/headroom.
In practice, all of the above just turn out to be marketing sauce or in some cases, outright lies. There is no substitute for dollar spend (opex and capex) to make a network perform. There is no magic sauce, there is no silver bullet. You have adequate resources, you will have adequate performance.
metrics, which is usually not very good. but there's another limit, which is bgp path symmetry. most tcp implementations are still stone-aged
AKA optimizing for outbound doesn't do you any good on optimizing for inbound.
(experience says they're not going to trust your MEDs even if they're close enough to hear them.)
Most people don't trust MEDs for a reason paul, and it is not because they want to mess with your customers. /vijay
Current thread:
- Outbound Route Optimization Jim Devane (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Phil Rosenthal (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Paul Vixie (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization vijay gill (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Paul Vixie (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Patrick W . Gilmore (Jan 22)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Tom (UnitedLayer) (Jan 22)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization vijay gill (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Richard A Steenbergen (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Tom (UnitedLayer) (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Richard A Steenbergen (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Tom (UnitedLayer) (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Tom (UnitedLayer) (Jan 21)
- Re: Outbound Route Optimization Richard A Steenbergen (Jan 23)